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		<title>Commentary #23: Lennox and Moral Reasoning in Animal Rights</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I did a Commentary and I have been meaning to start up again but, alas, it&#8217;s been a busy time. I was planning to do a podcast on the topic of my essay, Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy, which I published in May and [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-234-lennox-and-moral-reasoning-in-animal-rights/">Commentary #23: Lennox and Moral Reasoning in Animal Rights</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-legacy-of-lennox/' rel='bookmark' title='The Legacy of Lennox'>The Legacy of Lennox</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/moral-concern-moral-impulse-and-logical-argument-in-animal-rights-advocacy/' rel='bookmark' title='Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy'>Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-21-the-animal-rights-debate-the-abolitionist-approach-discussion-forum-and-a-response-to-nicolette-hahn-niman/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman'>Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/upcoming-abolitionist-approach-podcast-on-effective-animal-rights-advocacy-a-preview/' rel='bookmark' title='Upcoming Abolitionist Approach Podcast on Effective Animal Rights Advocacy: A Preview'>Upcoming Abolitionist Approach Podcast on Effective Animal Rights Advocacy: A Preview</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-using-sexism-to-promote-animal-rights/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #9: Using Sexism to Promote Animal Rights'>Commentary #9: Using Sexism to Promote Animal Rights</a></li>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I did a Commentary and I have been meaning to start up again but, alas, it&#8217;s been a busy time.</p>
<p>I was planning to do a podcast on the topic of my essay, <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/moral-concern-moral-impulse-and-logical-argument-in-animal-rights-advocacy/">Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy</a>, which I published in May and that got a terrific response.</p>
<p>And then I saw the story yesterday that, on Wednesday, June 11, 2012, the Belfast (Northern Ireland) City Council, killed <a href="http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/heartbreak-as-death-row-dog-lennox-destroyed-by-belfast-council-16183738.html">Lennox</a>, a dog that was alleged to be a pit bull, a breed which is illegal in Northern Ireland. There had been a worldwide campaign to save Lennox and after he was killed, there were protests in Spain, the U.S., Serbia, and other places.</p>
<p>I posted an essay, <a href="www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-legacy-of-lennox/">The Legacy of Lennox</a> as soon as I heard the news and I decided that it was a good time to do the Commentary because the reaction to Lennox&#8217;s situation required that we think generalizing our moral concern to other animals. In my view, if you are upset about the killing of Lennox, but you are not vegan, you are not thinking clearly. Lennox&#8217;s case raises some of the same issues as did the matter of <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/what-michael-vick-taught-us/">Michael Vick</a>.</p>
<p>In the first part of the Commentary, I discuss Lennox. I go on to talk about moral reasoning animal rights advocacy. I also discuss the concept of <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/sentience/">sentience</a> in the second part. </p>
<p>I hope that you enjoy Commentary #24 and that you find that it helps your thinking about animal ethics.</p>
<p>And many thanks to Paola Aldana de Meoño for designing the new Commentary avatar.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>If you are not vegan, please go vegan. Veganism is about nonviolence. First and foremost, it&#8217;s about nonviolence to other sentient beings. But it&#8217;s also about nonviolence to the earth and nonviolence to yourself.</p>
<p><a title="Join THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it campaign" href="http://www.theworldisvegan.com/">The World is Vegan! If you want it.</a></p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
Professor, Rutgers University</p>
<p>©2012 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-234-lennox-and-moral-reasoning-in-animal-rights/">Commentary #23: Lennox and Moral Reasoning in Animal Rights</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-legacy-of-lennox/' rel='bookmark' title='The Legacy of Lennox'>The Legacy of Lennox</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/moral-concern-moral-impulse-and-logical-argument-in-animal-rights-advocacy/' rel='bookmark' title='Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy'>Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-21-the-animal-rights-debate-the-abolitionist-approach-discussion-forum-and-a-response-to-nicolette-hahn-niman/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman'>Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/upcoming-abolitionist-approach-podcast-on-effective-animal-rights-advocacy-a-preview/' rel='bookmark' title='Upcoming Abolitionist Approach Podcast on Effective Animal Rights Advocacy: A Preview'>Upcoming Abolitionist Approach Podcast on Effective Animal Rights Advocacy: A Preview</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-using-sexism-to-promote-animal-rights/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #9: Using Sexism to Promote Animal Rights'>Commentary #9: Using Sexism to Promote Animal Rights</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>It&#039;s been a while since I did a Commentary and I have been meaning to start up again but, alas, it&#039;s been a busy time.  I was planning to do a podcast on the topic of my essay, Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>It&#039;s been a while since I did a Commentary and I have been meaning to start up again but, alas, it&#039;s been a busy time.

I was planning to do a podcast on the topic of my essay, Moral Concern, Moral Impulse, and Logical Argument in Animal Rights Advocacy, which I published in May and that got a terrific response.

And then I saw the story yesterday that, on Wednesday, June 11, 2012, the Belfast (Northern Ireland) City Council, killed Lennox, a dog that was alleged to be a pit bull, a breed which is illegal in Northern Ireland. There had been a worldwide campaign to save Lennox and after he was killed, there were protests in Spain, the U.S., Serbia, and other places.

I posted an essay, The Legacy of Lennox as soon as I heard the news and I decided that it was a good time to do the Commentary because the reaction to Lennox&#039;s situation required that we think generalizing our moral concern to other animals. In my view, if you are upset about the killing of Lennox, but you are not vegan, you are not thinking clearly. Lennox&#039;s case raises some of the same issues as did the matter of Michael Vick.

In the first part of the Commentary, I discuss Lennox. I go on to talk about moral reasoning animal rights advocacy. I also discuss the concept of sentience in the second part. 

I hope that you enjoy Commentary #24 and that you find that it helps your thinking about animal ethics.

And many thanks to Paola Aldana de Meoño for designing the new Commentary avatar.

*****

If you are not vegan, please go vegan. Veganism is about nonviolence. First and foremost, it&#039;s about nonviolence to other sentient beings. But it&#039;s also about nonviolence to the earth and nonviolence to yourself.

The World is Vegan! If you want it.

Gary L. Francione
Professor, Rutgers University

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		<title>Commentary #22: A Discussion on Abolition vs. Regulation with Robert Garner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 12:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: My most recent book, The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?, involves a debate between me and Professor Robert Garner of the University of Leicester. In this Commentary, Professor Garner and I discuss our book. Garner&#8217;s position, although a form of what I call &#8220;new welfarism,&#8221; is different from that of Singer and [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-22-a-discussion-on-abolition-vs-regulation-with-robert-garner/">Commentary #22: A Discussion on Abolition vs. Regulation with Robert Garner</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/upcoming-debate-abolition-vs-regulation/' rel='bookmark' title='Upcoming Debate: Abolition vs. Regulation'>Upcoming Debate: Abolition vs. Regulation</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-21-the-animal-rights-debate-the-abolitionist-approach-discussion-forum-and-a-response-to-nicolette-hahn-niman/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman'>Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-18-a-step-backward-the-importance-of-veganism-and-the-misuse-of-abolition/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #18: A Step Backward, the Importance of Veganism, and the Misuse of &#8220;Abolition&#8221;'>Commentary #18: A Step Backward, the Importance of Veganism, and the Misuse of &#8220;Abolition&#8221;</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-professor-gary-steiner/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #11: Discussion with Professor Gary Steiner'>Commentary #11: Discussion with Professor Gary Steiner</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-ronnie-lee-and-roger-yates/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #17: Discussion with Ronnie Lee and Roger Yates'>Commentary #17: Discussion with Ronnie Lee and Roger Yates</a></li>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>My most recent book, <a title="Read about The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/the-animal-rights-debate-abolition-or-regulation/">The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?</a>, involves a debate between me and <a title="Read about Professor Robert Garner" href="http://www.le.ac.uk/politics/staff/rwg2.html">Professor Robert Garner</a> of the University of Leicester.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, Professor Garner and I discuss our book. Garner&#8217;s position, although a form of what I call &#8220;new welfarism,&#8221; is different from that of Singer and most others. To start with, Garner is not an act utilitarian, as is Singer. Like Singer (and Regan), Garner does not recognize that animal life has moral value equal to human life but he thinks that an animal&#8217;s interest in not suffering should be protected with a  &#8220;right.&#8221; He equivocates about whether this right is a right not to suffer &#8220;unacceptably,&#8221; in which case his position collapses into a form of welfare (similar to what I have discussed in my 1995 book,<em> Animals, Property, and the Law</em>, as the new welfarist &#8220;right to humane treatment&#8221;), or whether the right not to suffer is an absolute right, in which case Robert&#8217;s position would rule out all animal use because, as I point out in our book, all use involves some form of suffering, distress, etc. As I also discuss  in our book, if Garner understands this right in an absolute sense,  then there are theoretical problems understanding the derivation of any such right and Garner&#8217;s promotion of welfarist reform is both theoretically and practically inconsistent with any such right.</p>
<p>In our discussion here, we focus on the following questions that I prepared:</p>
<p>1. In our book, you state that animals have a right not to suffer &#8220;unacceptably.&#8221; How do you determine what levels of suffering are &#8220;acceptable&#8221;?</p>
<p>2. Although you think that factory-farming cannot be morally justified, if animals could be raised in a pleasant way with minimal suffering and killed in a relatively painless way for food, or if animals could be used in experiments with minimal suffering and significant benefits for humans, you could not object, could you?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a very clear example: I have a cow who lives in the back garden. I treat her very well. I shoot her (one bullet; instantaneous death) and kill her and eat her. Have I done anything morally wrong?</p>
<p>3. In our book, you state: &#8220;I am accepting the view that, all things being equal, nonhuman animal life (of most nonhuman species at least) is of less moral value than human life.&#8221; p. 187 Why do you take this position?</p>
<p>4. A central point of disagreement between us is that you believe that regulationist groups, such as the RSPCA, CIWF, PETA, HSUS are seeking and achieving &#8220;worthwhile&#8221; wins. Do you believe that any of these &#8220;wins&#8221; does much more than make animal use more economically efficient? If so, can you identify them?</p>
<p>5. Do you believe that these groups are stimulating demand for &#8220;higher welfare&#8221; products in a way that will adversely affect overall demand? Given that all of these groups are promoting &#8220;happy&#8221; exploitation labels, can you doubt that whatever the effect will be, these groups believe that these labels will make people feel more comfortable about exploitation?</p>
<p>I hope that you enjoy the discussion.</p>
<p>If you are not vegan, go vegan. It&#8217;s easy; it&#8217;s better for your health and for the planet. But, most important, it&#8217;s the morally right thing to do.</p>
<p><a title="Join THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it campaign" href="http://www.theworldisvegan.com/">The World is Vegan! If you want it.</a></p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2011 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-22-a-discussion-on-abolition-vs-regulation-with-robert-garner/">Commentary #22: A Discussion on Abolition vs. Regulation with Robert Garner</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/upcoming-debate-abolition-vs-regulation/' rel='bookmark' title='Upcoming Debate: Abolition vs. Regulation'>Upcoming Debate: Abolition vs. Regulation</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-21-the-animal-rights-debate-the-abolitionist-approach-discussion-forum-and-a-response-to-nicolette-hahn-niman/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman'>Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-18-a-step-backward-the-importance-of-veganism-and-the-misuse-of-abolition/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #18: A Step Backward, the Importance of Veganism, and the Misuse of &#8220;Abolition&#8221;'>Commentary #18: A Step Backward, the Importance of Veganism, and the Misuse of &#8220;Abolition&#8221;</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-professor-gary-steiner/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #11: Discussion with Professor Gary Steiner'>Commentary #11: Discussion with Professor Gary Steiner</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-ronnie-lee-and-roger-yates/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #17: Discussion with Ronnie Lee and Roger Yates'>Commentary #17: Discussion with Ronnie Lee and Roger Yates</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  My most recent book, The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?, involves a debate between me and Professor Robert Garner of the University of Leicester.  In this Commentary, Professor Garner and I discuss our book.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

My most recent book, The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?, involves a debate between me and Professor Robert Garner of the University of Leicester.

In this Commentary, Professor Garner and I discuss our book. Garner&#039;s position, although a form of what I call &quot;new welfarism,&quot; is different from that of Singer and most others. To start with, Garner is not an act utilitarian, as is Singer. Like Singer (and Regan), Garner does not recognize that animal life has moral value equal to human life but he thinks that an animal&#039;s interest in not suffering should be protected with a  &quot;right.&quot; He equivocates about whether this right is a right not to suffer &quot;unacceptably,&quot; in which case his position collapses into a form of welfare (similar to what I have discussed in my 1995 book, Animals, Property, and the Law, as the new welfarist &quot;right to humane treatment&quot;), or whether the right not to suffer is an absolute right, in which case Robert&#039;s position would rule out all animal use because, as I point out in our book, all use involves some form of suffering, distress, etc. As I also discuss  in our book, if Garner understands this right in an absolute sense,  then there are theoretical problems understanding the derivation of any such right and Garner&#039;s promotion of welfarist reform is both theoretically and practically inconsistent with any such right.

In our discussion here, we focus on the following questions that I prepared:

1. In our book, you state that animals have a right not to suffer &quot;unacceptably.&quot; How do you determine what levels of suffering are &quot;acceptable&quot;?

2. Although you think that factory-farming cannot be morally justified, if animals could be raised in a pleasant way with minimal suffering and killed in a relatively painless way for food, or if animals could be used in experiments with minimal suffering and significant benefits for humans, you could not object, could you?

Let&#039;s take a very clear example: I have a cow who lives in the back garden. I treat her very well. I shoot her (one bullet; instantaneous death) and kill her and eat her. Have I done anything morally wrong?

3. In our book, you state: &quot;I am accepting the view that, all things being equal, nonhuman animal life (of most nonhuman species at least) is of less moral value than human life.&quot; p. 187 Why do you take this position?

4. A central point of disagreement between us is that you believe that regulationist groups, such as the RSPCA, CIWF, PETA, HSUS are seeking and achieving &quot;worthwhile&quot; wins. Do you believe that any of these &quot;wins&quot; does much more than make animal use more economically efficient? If so, can you identify them?

5. Do you believe that these groups are stimulating demand for &quot;higher welfare&quot; products in a way that will adversely affect overall demand? Given that all of these groups are promoting &quot;happy&quot; exploitation labels, can you doubt that whatever the effect will be, these groups believe that these labels will make people feel more comfortable about exploitation?

I hope that you enjoy the discussion.

If you are not vegan, go vegan. It&#039;s easy; it&#039;s better for your health and for the planet. But, most important, it&#039;s the morally right thing to do.

The World is Vegan! If you want it.

Gary L. Francione
©2011 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: In this Commentary, I discuss three issues. First, I talk about my new book, The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?, co-authored with Professor Robert Garner, and published by Columbia University Press. This book focuses on the debate ongoing in the animal advocacy community: should we pursue welfare reform as a means to [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-21-the-animal-rights-debate-the-abolitionist-approach-discussion-forum-and-a-response-to-nicolette-hahn-niman/">Commentary #21: &#8220;The Animal Rights Debate,&#8221; the Abolitionist Approach Discussion Forum, and a Response to Nicolette Hahn Niman</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I discuss three issues.</p>
<p>First, I talk about my new book, <a title="Read about The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/the-animal-rights-debate-abolition-or-regulation/">The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?</a>, co-authored with Professor Robert Garner, and published by Columbia University Press.</p>
<p>This book focuses on the debate ongoing in the animal advocacy community: should we pursue welfare reform as a means to the end of achieving animal rights? I argue against welfare reform; Garner argues for it. </p>
<p>Second, two weeks ago, on October 26, 2010, we launched the <a title="Visit The Abolitionist Approach Forum" href="http://abolitionistapproach.com/forum/">Abolitionist Approach Forum</a>, a place where those interested can discuss the theoretical issues concerning abolition and veganism and practical ideas on creative, nonviolent vegan education, as well as exchange information about nutrition, vegan food, raising vegan children, etc. </p>
<p>So far we have 200+ members and the discussions are terrific. There are only two rules: civil, respectful discourse and no promotion of violence. </p>
<p>If you are interested in learning more about vegan philosophy and the abolitionist approach to animal rights, consider joining the Forum.</p>
<p>Third, I present  a response to Nicolette Hahn Niman, of the <a title="Read The Niman Ranch Story" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p4058/niman-ranch.pdf">Niman Ranch</a>, which sells &#8220;happy&#8221; meat that is, according to the website, &#8220;Humanely Raised on Sustainable U.S. Family Farms and Ranches.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a recent essay published in The Atlantic, <a title="Read Dogs Aren't Dinner: The Flaws in an Argument for Veganism" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p4058/dogs-arent.pdf">Dogs Aren&#8217;t Dinner: The Flaws in an Argument for Veganism</a>, Ms. Niman denies that we suffer from moral schizophrenia when we treat some animals as members of our families but stick forks into others. Her analysis, in a nutshell, is that, as a cultural matter, we have a different relationship with dogs than we do pigs.</p>
<p>That is precisely the problem: as a cultural matter, we treat some sentient nonhumans as things and some as persons. But cultural norms cannot serve as any sort of justification of cultural norms! If they could, then racism, sexism, and all sorts of discrimination and human rights violations would be justified.</p>
<p>I hope that you enjoy the Commentary.</p>
<p>If you are not vegan, why aren&#8217;t you vegan? It is not necessary in any way for humans to exploit nonhumans. So why do it? Going vegan is easy; better for your health; and, most important, the very least you can do if you regard animals as having moral significance. </p>
<p>If you are vegan, then educate others in a creative, nonviolent way.</p>
<p><a title="Join THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it campaign" href="http://www.theworldisvegan.com/">The World is Vegan! If you want it.</a></p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2010 Gary L. Francione</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  In this Commentary, I discuss three issues.  First, I talk about my new book, The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?, co-authored with Professor Robert Garner, and published by Columbia University Press.  </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

In this Commentary, I discuss three issues.

First, I talk about my new book, The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?, co-authored with Professor Robert Garner, and published by Columbia University Press.

This book focuses on the debate ongoing in the animal advocacy community: should we pursue welfare reform as a means to the end of achieving animal rights? I argue against welfare reform; Garner argues for it. 

Second, two weeks ago, on October 26, 2010, we launched the Abolitionist Approach Forum, a place where those interested can discuss the theoretical issues concerning abolition and veganism and practical ideas on creative, nonviolent vegan education, as well as exchange information about nutrition, vegan food, raising vegan children, etc. 

So far we have 200+ members and the discussions are terrific. There are only two rules: civil, respectful discourse and no promotion of violence. 

If you are interested in learning more about vegan philosophy and the abolitionist approach to animal rights, consider joining the Forum.

Third, I present  a response to Nicolette Hahn Niman, of the Niman Ranch, which sells &quot;happy&quot; meat that is, according to the website, &quot;Humanely Raised on Sustainable U.S. Family Farms and Ranches.&quot;

In a recent essay published in The Atlantic, Dogs Aren&#039;t Dinner: The Flaws in an Argument for Veganism, Ms. Niman denies that we suffer from moral schizophrenia when we treat some animals as members of our families but stick forks into others. Her analysis, in a nutshell, is that, as a cultural matter, we have a different relationship with dogs than we do pigs.

That is precisely the problem: as a cultural matter, we treat some sentient nonhumans as things and some as persons. But cultural norms cannot serve as any sort of justification of cultural norms! If they could, then racism, sexism, and all sorts of discrimination and human rights violations would be justified.

I hope that you enjoy the Commentary.

If you are not vegan, why aren&#039;t you vegan? It is not necessary in any way for humans to exploit nonhumans. So why do it? Going vegan is easy; better for your health; and, most important, the very least you can do if you regard animals as having moral significance. 

If you are vegan, then educate others in a creative, nonviolent way.

The World is Vegan! If you want it.

Gary L. Francione
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		<title>Commentary #19: Talking With Non-Vegans About Veganism: Five Principles</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: In this Commentary, I address a topic that I have been asked to cover by a number of you: how do we talk with non-vegans about veganism? I present five general principles: Principle #1: People are good at heart. Our default position when we talk with people ought to be that they are [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-19-talking-with-non-vegans-about-veganism-five-principles/">Commentary #19: Talking With Non-Vegans About Veganism: Five Principles</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I address a topic that I have been asked to cover by a number of you: how do we talk with non-vegans about veganism?</p>
<p>I present five general principles:</p>
<p><strong>Principle #1: People are good at heart.</strong> </p>
<p>Our default position when we talk with people ought to be that they are good at heart, and interested in, and educable about, moral issues. There is a tendency among at least some advocates to have a very misanthropic view of other humans and to see them as being inherently immoral or uninterested in issues of morality. I disagree with that view. </p>
<p><strong>Principle #2: People are not stupid.</strong> </p>
<p>There is a tendency among animal advocates to believe that the general public is not able to understand the arguments in favor of veganism and that we must &#8220;go easy&#8221; and instead of talking about veganism, we should talk about vegetarianism, &#8220;Meat Free Monday,&#8221; &#8220;happy&#8221; meat and animal products, etc. I disagree with this very elitist way of thinking about other people. There is no mystery here; there is nothing complicated. People can understand if we teach effectively. </p>
<p><strong>Principle #3: Do not get defensive; respond, don&#8217;t react.</strong></p>
<p>Yes, some people will try to provoke us or will ask questions or make comments that we find insulting or that we take not to be serious. If someone is really not interested in what we are saying, they will, as a general matter, walk away. Treat every comment and question—even the ones you find abrasive, rude, or sarcastic—as an <em>invitation</em> being offered to you by someone who is more provoked (in a positive way) by you and engaged than you might think.</p>
<p><strong>Principle #4: Do not get frustrated. Education is hard work.</strong></p>
<p>You will get the same question many times; you will be asked questions that indicate you must start at the beginning with someone. But if you want to be an effective educator, you have to answer every question as if it is the first time you heard it. If you want others to be enthusiastic about your message, <em>you</em> have to be enthusiastic about it first.</p>
<p><strong>Principle #5: Learn the basics. You have to be a student first before you become a teacher.</strong></p>
<p>Many animal advocates become excited about abolitionist veganism and the next thing that happens is that they set up a website or start a blog that is motivated by the right feelings but not informed by clear ideas. Before you teach others, learn about the basics. Take advantage of abolitionist vegan resources, such as the <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/video/">videos</a>, <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/text/">pamphlets</a>, and other materials available on this site and materials available on other abolitionist sites such as <a href="http://animalemancipation.com/">animalemacipation.com</a> and the <a href="http://bostonvegan.org/">Boston Vegan Association</a>.</p>
<p>The sad fact is that the biggest obstacles to vegan education are the large, new welfarist groups that have become partners with institutional animal exploiters to promote the consumption of animal products by giving various forms of &#8220;animal rights approval&#8221; to animal exploitation (see, for example <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/partners-in-exploitation/">1</a>, <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/euphoria-for-whom/">2</a>). </p>
<p>These new welfarist groups are part of the problem; they are not part of the solution.</p>
<p>I hope you find the Commentary to be useful. As I indicate, I will be pleased to do future Commentaries in which I address further issues related to vegan advocacy depending on the feedback I receive on this Commentary.</p>
<p>Go vegan. It is easy. It is better for your health and for the planet. But most important, it is the morally right and just thing to do.  </p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2010 Gary L. Francione  </p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-19-talking-with-non-vegans-about-veganism-five-principles/">Commentary #19: Talking With Non-Vegans About Veganism: Five Principles</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  In this Commentary, I address a topic that I have been asked to cover by a number of you: how do we talk with non-vegans about veganism?  I present five general principles:  Principle #1: People are good at heart.   </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

In this Commentary, I address a topic that I have been asked to cover by a number of you: how do we talk with non-vegans about veganism?

I present five general principles:

Principle #1: People are good at heart. 

Our default position when we talk with people ought to be that they are good at heart, and interested in, and educable about, moral issues. There is a tendency among at least some advocates to have a very misanthropic view of other humans and to see them as being inherently immoral or uninterested in issues of morality. I disagree with that view. 

Principle #2: People are not stupid. 

There is a tendency among animal advocates to believe that the general public is not able to understand the arguments in favor of veganism and that we must &quot;go easy&quot; and instead of talking about veganism, we should talk about vegetarianism, &quot;Meat Free Monday,&quot; &quot;happy&quot; meat and animal products, etc. I disagree with this very elitist way of thinking about other people. There is no mystery here; there is nothing complicated. People can understand if we teach effectively. 

Principle #3: Do not get defensive; respond, don&#039;t react.

Yes, some people will try to provoke us or will ask questions or make comments that we find insulting or that we take not to be serious. If someone is really not interested in what we are saying, they will, as a general matter, walk away. Treat every comment and question—even the ones you find abrasive, rude, or sarcastic—as an invitation being offered to you by someone who is more provoked (in a positive way) by you and engaged than you might think.

Principle #4: Do not get frustrated. Education is hard work.

You will get the same question many times; you will be asked questions that indicate you must start at the beginning with someone. But if you want to be an effective educator, you have to answer every question as if it is the first time you heard it. If you want others to be enthusiastic about your message, you have to be enthusiastic about it first.

Principle #5: Learn the basics. You have to be a student first before you become a teacher.

Many animal advocates become excited about abolitionist veganism and the next thing that happens is that they set up a website or start a blog that is motivated by the right feelings but not informed by clear ideas. Before you teach others, learn about the basics. Take advantage of abolitionist vegan resources, such as the videos, pamphlets, and other materials available on this site and materials available on other abolitionist sites such as animalemacipation.com and the Boston Vegan Association.

The sad fact is that the biggest obstacles to vegan education are the large, new welfarist groups that have become partners with institutional animal exploiters to promote the consumption of animal products by giving various forms of &quot;animal rights approval&quot; to animal exploitation (see, for example 1, 2). 

These new welfarist groups are part of the problem; they are not part of the solution.

I hope you find the Commentary to be useful. As I indicate, I will be pleased to do future Commentaries in which I address further issues related to vegan advocacy depending on the feedback I receive on this Commentary.

Go vegan. It is easy. It is better for your health and for the planet. But most important, it is the morally right and just thing to do.  

Gary L. Francione
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		<title>Commentary #18: A Step Backward, the Importance of Veganism, and the Misuse of &#8220;Abolition&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: In this Commentary, I discuss several topics: First, I talk about the announcement by the new welfarist Mercy for Animals that the retail giant Costco has taken a &#8220;step forward&#8221; by agreeing to market &#8220;humane&#8221; veal. I maintain that having animal advocates praise this as a &#8220;step forward&#8221; and characterizing the issue of [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-18-a-step-backward-the-importance-of-veganism-and-the-misuse-of-abolition/">Commentary #18: A Step Backward, the Importance of Veganism, and the Misuse of &#8220;Abolition&#8221;</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I discuss several topics:</p>
<p>First, I talk about the <a title="Read Costco Responds to Animal Cruelty Charge" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p3419/announcement.pdf">announcement</a> by the new welfarist Mercy for Animals that the retail giant Costco has taken a &#8220;step forward&#8221; by agreeing to market &#8220;humane&#8221; veal. I maintain that having animal advocates praise this as a &#8220;step forward&#8221; and characterizing the issue of eating veal (as opposed to all animal products) as an important issue is a step backward.</p>
<p>Second, I address the <a title="Read Personal Purity vs. Effective Advocacy" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p3419/argument.pdf">argument</a> made by certain large organizations that because we cannot avoid animal products altogether, any baseline moral principle that we should adhere to veganism is just artificial &#8220;personal purity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, I talk about the misuse of &#8220;abolition&#8221; by those who advocate welfare reform and violence.</p>
<p>I also discuss briefly the abolitionist workshop that we held at Rutgers in late May and my forthcoming book, <a title="Read New Book Coming Soon!" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/new-book-coming-soon/">The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?</a>, which is being published by Columbia University Press. </p>
<p>I hope you enjoy the Commentary.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-18-a-step-backward-the-importance-of-veganism-and-the-misuse-of-abolition/">Commentary #18: A Step Backward, the Importance of Veganism, and the Misuse of &#8220;Abolition&#8221;</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  In this Commentary, I discuss several topics:  First, I talk about the announcement by the new welfarist Mercy for Animals that the retail giant Costco has taken a &quot;step forward&quot; by agreeing to market &quot;humane&quot; veal.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

In this Commentary, I discuss several topics:

First, I talk about the announcement by the new welfarist Mercy for Animals that the retail giant Costco has taken a &quot;step forward&quot; by agreeing to market &quot;humane&quot; veal. I maintain that having animal advocates praise this as a &quot;step forward&quot; and characterizing the issue of eating veal (as opposed to all animal products) as an important issue is a step backward.

Second, I address the argument made by certain large organizations that because we cannot avoid animal products altogether, any baseline moral principle that we should adhere to veganism is just artificial &quot;personal purity.&quot;

Finally, I talk about the misuse of &quot;abolition&quot; by those who advocate welfare reform and violence.

I also discuss briefly the abolitionist workshop that we held at Rutgers in late May and my forthcoming book, The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?, which is being published by Columbia University Press. 

I hope you enjoy the Commentary.

Gary L. Francione
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		<title>Commentary #17: Discussion with Ronnie Lee and Roger Yates</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 02:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: In this Commentary, I have two guests: Ronnie Lee, who founded the Band of Mercy in 1972 and the Animal Liberation Front in 1976, and Roger Yates, an adjunct lecturer in sociology at University College, Dublin. As I am sure you are aware, I am opposed to all violence and I do not [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-ronnie-lee-and-roger-yates/">Commentary #17: Discussion with Ronnie Lee and Roger Yates</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I have two guests: Ronnie Lee, who founded the Band of Mercy in 1972 and the Animal Liberation Front in 1976, and Roger Yates, an adjunct lecturer in sociology at University College, Dublin.</p>
<p>As I am sure you are aware, I am opposed to all violence and I do not support militant direct action. This is the starting point for my discussion with Ronnie and Roger but we go on to talk about a variety of topics. And we are all agreed about the importance of creative, nonviolent vegan education.</p>
<p>I hope that you enjoy the Commentary. </p>
<p>And by the way:</p>
<p>Go vegan. It’s better for your health (animal foods cause physical harm); it’s better for the environment (animal agriculture is an ecological disaster); and, most importantly, it’s the morally right thing to do.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2010 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-ronnie-lee-and-roger-yates/">Commentary #17: Discussion with Ronnie Lee and Roger Yates</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  In this Commentary, I have two guests: Ronnie Lee, who founded the Band of Mercy in 1972 and the Animal Liberation Front in 1976, and Roger Yates, an adjunct lecturer in sociology at University College, Dublin.  </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

In this Commentary, I have two guests: Ronnie Lee, who founded the Band of Mercy in 1972 and the Animal Liberation Front in 1976, and Roger Yates, an adjunct lecturer in sociology at University College, Dublin.

As I am sure you are aware, I am opposed to all violence and I do not support militant direct action. This is the starting point for my discussion with Ronnie and Roger but we go on to talk about a variety of topics. And we are all agreed about the importance of creative, nonviolent vegan education.

I hope that you enjoy the Commentary. 

And by the way:

Go vegan. It’s better for your health (animal foods cause physical harm); it’s better for the environment (animal agriculture is an ecological disaster); and, most importantly, it’s the morally right thing to do.

Gary L. Francione
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		<title>Commentary #16: Responding to Questions: Single-Issue Campaigns and MDA Opposition to the Abolitionist Approach</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: Several weeks ago, I asked for questions that people would like me to address. I received approximately 80 questions. I plan to do several Commentaries in which I discuss at least some of these questions. A number of the questions that I received concern single-issue campaigns so this Commentary deals primarily with that [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-16-responding-to-questions/">Commentary #16: Responding to Questions: Single-Issue Campaigns and MDA Opposition to the Abolitionist Approach</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>Several weeks ago, I asked for questions that people would like me to address. I received approximately 80 questions. I plan to do several Commentaries in which I discuss at least some of these questions.</p>
<p>A number of the questions that I received concern single-issue campaigns so this Commentary deals primarily with that topic and with the issue about why many of those who promote violence are opposed to the abolitionist approach.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2010 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-16-responding-to-questions/">Commentary #16: Responding to Questions: Single-Issue Campaigns and MDA Opposition to the Abolitionist Approach</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/single-issue-campaigns-and-in-human-nonhuman-contexts/' rel='bookmark' title='Single-Issue Campaigns in Human &amp; Nonhuman Contexts'>Single-Issue Campaigns in Human &#038; Nonhuman Contexts</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  Several weeks ago, I asked for questions that people would like me to address. I received approximately 80 questions. I plan to do several Commentaries in which I discuss at least some of these questions.  </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

Several weeks ago, I asked for questions that people would like me to address. I received approximately 80 questions. I plan to do several Commentaries in which I discuss at least some of these questions.

A number of the questions that I received concern single-issue campaigns so this Commentary deals primarily with that topic and with the issue about why many of those who promote violence are opposed to the abolitionist approach.

Gary L. Francione
©2010 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #15: The Tide Is Turning</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: Victor Schonfeld, director of the influential 1982 film, The Animals Film, followed up his two-part BBC World Service program, One Planet: Animals and Us, with an editorial, The Five Fatal Flaws of Animal Activism, in the Guardian, one of the leading U.K. newspapers. Schonfeld once again made clear that the mainstream movement had [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-tide-is-turning/">Commentary #15: The Tide Is Turning</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>Victor Schonfeld, director of the influential 1982 film, <a title="Read about The Animals Film" href="http://www.victorschonfeld.com/index.htm"><em>The Animals Film</em></a>, followed up his two-part BBC World Service program, <a title="Listen to One Planet: Animals &#038; Us, Part 1" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p005k2zy"><em>One Planet: Animals and Us</em></a>, with an editorial, <a title="Read Five fatal flaws of animal activism" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p2919/the-five-fatal.pdf"><em>The Five Fatal Flaws of Animal Activism</em></a>, in the <em>Guardian</em>, one of the leading U.K. newspapers.</p>
<p>Schonfeld once again made clear that the mainstream movement had lost its way. He criticized welfare campaigns, the promotion of &#8220;happy&#8221; meat and animal products, giving awards to slaughterhouse designers, and PETA&#8217;s relentless sexism. He once again endorsed the idea that veganism should be the moral baseline.</p>
<p>Schonfeld was quite remarkably <a title="Read Comment Is Free; Reason Too Expensive" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p2919/criticized.pdf">criticized</a> by Vegan Outreach, which is now transparently part of the animal welfare/&#8221;happy&#8221; meat initiative. But even more remarkable was that three days after Scholfeld&#8217;s editorial appeared, PETA&#8217;s Ingrid Newkirk <a title="Read A pragmatic fight for animal rights" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p2919/replied.pdf">replied</a> in the <em>Guardian</em>, defending PETA&#8217;s status as an animal welfare organization and calling its sexist campaigns &#8220;harmless antics.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did a <a title="Read The Answers Should Be Clear" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-answers-should-be-clear/">blog entry</a> on Newkirk&#8217;s editorial.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I discuss whether the tide is turning in favor of creative, nonviolent abolitionist-vegan advocacy. My guests are Roger Yates, who is an adjunct lecturer in sociology at University College, Dublin and <a title="Visit We Other Animals" href="http://weotheranimals.blogspot.com/">Vincent J. Guihan</a>, a doctoral student at Canada&#8217;s Carleton University and a person who has a finely-tuned sense of the politics of the animal movement. </p>
<p><a title="Visit THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it." href="http://www.theworldisvegan.com/">THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it</a>.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2010 Gary L. Francione</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  Victor Schonfeld, director of the influential 1982 film, The Animals Film, followed up his two-part BBC World Service program, One Planet: Animals and Us, with an editorial, The Five Fatal Flaws of Animal Activism, in the Guardian,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

Victor Schonfeld, director of the influential 1982 film, The Animals Film, followed up his two-part BBC World Service program, One Planet: Animals and Us, with an editorial, The Five Fatal Flaws of Animal Activism, in the Guardian, one of the leading U.K. newspapers.

Schonfeld once again made clear that the mainstream movement had lost its way. He criticized welfare campaigns, the promotion of &quot;happy&quot; meat and animal products, giving awards to slaughterhouse designers, and PETA&#039;s relentless sexism. He once again endorsed the idea that veganism should be the moral baseline.

Schonfeld was quite remarkably criticized by Vegan Outreach, which is now transparently part of the animal welfare/&quot;happy&quot; meat initiative. But even more remarkable was that three days after Scholfeld&#039;s editorial appeared, PETA&#039;s Ingrid Newkirk replied in the Guardian, defending PETA&#039;s status as an animal welfare organization and calling its sexist campaigns &quot;harmless antics.&quot;

I did a blog entry on Newkirk&#039;s editorial.

In this Commentary, I discuss whether the tide is turning in favor of creative, nonviolent abolitionist-vegan advocacy. My guests are Roger Yates, who is an adjunct lecturer in sociology at University College, Dublin and Vincent J. Guihan, a doctoral student at Canada&#039;s Carleton University and a person who has a finely-tuned sense of the politics of the animal movement. 

THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it.

Gary L. Francione
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: The second segment of the BBC&#8217;s One Planet: Animals and Us, hosted by Victor Schonfeld (who did the influential The Animals Film in 1982), focused on vivisection. Schonfeld ended the program by agreeing that the animal rights movement needs crystal clear guidelines and he explored veganism as a possible way to deal with [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-analysis-of-second-segment-of-animals-and-us/">Commentary #14: Analysis of Second Segment of “Animals and Us”</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>The <a title="Listen to One Planet: Animals and Us, Part 2" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p005nhv5">second segment</a> of the <em>BBC&#8217;s One Planet: Animals and Us</em>, hosted by Victor Schonfeld (who did the influential <a title="Read about The Animals Film" href="http://www.victorschonfeld.com/themakers.htm"><em>The Animals Film</em></a> in 1982), focused on vivisection. Schonfeld ended the program by agreeing that the animal rights movement needs crystal clear guidelines and he explored veganism as a possible way to deal with the problem of animal exploitation.</p>
<p>The BBC World Service is the most widely-listened to radio program in the world. It is exciting that veganism was discussed on the program.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, sociology instructor Roger Yates and NZ Podcast Producer Elizabeth Collins will join me for a commentary on the second segment of &#8220;Animals and Us.&#8221;</p>
<p>We will also discuss Norm Phelps&#8217; most recent <a title="Read Norm Phelps: In Praise of 'The New Welfarism'" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p2846/endorsement.pdf">endorsement</a> of new welfarism.</p>
<p><a title="Visit THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it." href="http://www.theworldisvegan.com/">THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it</a>.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2010 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-analysis-of-second-segment-of-animals-and-us/">Commentary #14: Analysis of Second Segment of “Animals and Us”</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  The second segment of the BBC&#039;s One Planet: Animals and Us, hosted by Victor Schonfeld (who did the influential The Animals Film in 1982), focused on vivisection. Schonfeld ended the program by agreeing that the animal rights movement...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

The second segment of the BBC&#039;s One Planet: Animals and Us, hosted by Victor Schonfeld (who did the influential The Animals Film in 1982), focused on vivisection. Schonfeld ended the program by agreeing that the animal rights movement needs crystal clear guidelines and he explored veganism as a possible way to deal with the problem of animal exploitation.

The BBC World Service is the most widely-listened to radio program in the world. It is exciting that veganism was discussed on the program.

In this Commentary, sociology instructor Roger Yates and NZ Podcast Producer Elizabeth Collins will join me for a commentary on the second segment of &quot;Animals and Us.&quot;

We will also discuss Norm Phelps&#039; most recent endorsement of new welfarism.

THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it.

Gary L. Francione
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		<title>Commentary #13: Analysis of First Segment of “Animals and Us”</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: On December 31, 2009, the BBC World Service broadcast the first segment of the two-part program One Planet: Animals and Us. This program was hosted by Victor Schonfeld, who did the highly influential The Animals Film in 1982. The Animals Film was among the first—if not the first—film to reveal how humans actually [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-analysis-of-first-segment-of-animals-and-us/">Commentary #13: Analysis of First Segment of “Animals and Us”</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>On December 31, 2009, the BBC World Service broadcast the first segment of the two-part program <a title="Listen to One Planet: Animals and Us, Part 1" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p005k2zy"><em>One Planet: Animals and Us.</em></a> This program was hosted by Victor Schonfeld, who did the highly influential <a title="Read about The Animals Film" href="http://www.victorschonfeld.com/themakers.htm"><em>The Animals Film</em></a> in 1982. <em>The Animals Film</em> was among the first—if not the first—film to reveal how humans actually treated nonhumans. <em>Animals and Us</em> involves Schonfeld&#8217;s return to the topic 27 years later to ask whether anything has changed since 1982. The first segment dealt primarily with the use of animals for food and focused on factory farming.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, sociology instructor Roger Yates and New Zealand podcasting phenomenon <a title="Visit NZ Vegan Podcast" href="http://nzveganpodcast.blogspot.com/">Elizabeth Collins</a>, and I discuss and critique this first segment.</p>
<p>If you are not vegan, go vegan. It&#8217;s easy; it&#8217;s better for your health and for the planet; and, most importantly, it&#8217;s the morally right thing to do.</p>
<p>And remember: <a title="Visit THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it." href="http://www.theworldisvegan.com/">THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it</a>.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2010 Gary L. Francione  </p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-analysis-of-first-segment-of-animals-and-us/">Commentary #13: Analysis of First Segment of “Animals and Us”</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  On December 31, 2009, the BBC World Service broadcast the first segment of the two-part program One Planet: Animals and Us. This program was hosted by Victor Schonfeld, who did the highly influential The Animals Film in 1982.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

On December 31, 2009, the BBC World Service broadcast the first segment of the two-part program One Planet: Animals and Us. This program was hosted by Victor Schonfeld, who did the highly influential The Animals Film in 1982. The Animals Film was among the first—if not the first—film to reveal how humans actually treated nonhumans. Animals and Us involves Schonfeld&#039;s return to the topic 27 years later to ask whether anything has changed since 1982. The first segment dealt primarily with the use of animals for food and focused on factory farming.

In this Commentary, sociology instructor Roger Yates and New Zealand podcasting phenomenon Elizabeth Collins, and I discuss and critique this first segment.

If you are not vegan, go vegan. It&#039;s easy; it&#039;s better for your health and for the planet; and, most importantly, it&#039;s the morally right thing to do.

And remember: THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it.

Gary L. Francione
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		<title>Commentary #12: The Virtual Billboard Campaign: THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>In this commentary, I discuss the <a title="Read Our Virtual Billboard: “THE WORLD IS VEGAN! If you want it.”" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/spread-the-message-the-world-is-vegan-if-you-want-it/" target="_self">virtual billboard</a> campaign, which focuses on empowering advocates with a positive message that change is possible and that we have the responsibility to effect that change. It is time to reject the vegan bashing that has become the central focus of the welfarist movement.</p>
<p>And I introduce Christine, the newest member of our nonhuman family!</p>
<p>I hope that you enjoy the podcast and that you will join our nonviolent efforts to spread the message of veganism around the world.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  In this commentary, I discuss the virtual billboard campaign, which focuses on empowering advocates with a positive message that change is possible and that we have the responsibility to effect that change.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

In this commentary, I discuss the virtual billboard campaign, which focuses on empowering advocates with a positive message that change is possible and that we have the responsibility to effect that change. It is time to reject the vegan bashing that has become the central focus of the welfarist movement.

And I introduce Christine, the newest member of our nonhuman family!

I hope that you enjoy the podcast and that you will join our nonviolent efforts to spread the message of veganism around the world.

Gary L. Francione
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: In this, Commentary #11, I have a discussion with Gary Steiner, Professor of Philosophy and Chair of the Philosophy Department at Bucknell University. Gary recently had an editorial in the New York Times about veganism and we talk about the reactions that he got to his editorial, including the criticisms from welfarists, many [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-professor-gary-steiner/">Commentary #11: Discussion with Professor Gary Steiner</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>In this, Commentary #11, I have a discussion with <a title="Read about Professor Gary Steiner" href="http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/gsteiner/" target="_self">Gary Steiner</a>, Professor of Philosophy and Chair of the Philosophy Department at Bucknell University.  Gary recently had an <a title="Read Animal, Vegetable, Miserable" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p2570/editorial.pdf" target="_self">editorial</a> in the New York Times about veganism and we talk about the reactions that he got to his editorial, including the criticisms from welfarists, many of whom praise slaughterhouse designer Temple Grandin and other supporters of speciesist exploitation.</p>
<p>We also discuss how welfarists refuse to engage abolitionists in debate because they have <em>nothing</em> to say in response to the argument that welfare reform merely increases the production efficiency of animal exploitation.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-discussion-with-professor-gary-steiner/">Commentary #11: Discussion with Professor Gary Steiner</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  In this, Commentary #11, I have a discussion with Gary Steiner, Professor of Philosophy and Chair of the Philosophy Department at Bucknell University.  Gary recently had an editorial in the New York Times about veganism and we talk ab...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

In this, Commentary #11, I have a discussion with Gary Steiner, Professor of Philosophy and Chair of the Philosophy Department at Bucknell University.  Gary recently had an editorial in the New York Times about veganism and we talk about the reactions that he got to his editorial, including the criticisms from welfarists, many of whom praise slaughterhouse designer Temple Grandin and other supporters of speciesist exploitation.

We also discuss how welfarists refuse to engage abolitionists in debate because they have nothing to say in response to the argument that welfare reform merely increases the production efficiency of animal exploitation.

Gary L. Francione
©2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #10: World Vegan Day—Nov. 1, 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: Happy World Vegan Day to all of you. In this Commentary, I reflect on the state of the vegan movement. The bad news: the large welfare corporations have done a great deal to marginalize veganism. The good news: in the past year, we have seen the growth of the abolitionist movement, which views [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-world-vegan-day-nov-1-2009/">Commentary #10: World Vegan Day—Nov. 1, 2009</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>Happy World Vegan Day to all of you.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I reflect on the state of the vegan movement. The bad news: the large welfare corporations have done a great deal to marginalize veganism. The good news: in the past year, we have seen the growth of the abolitionist movement, which views veganism as the moral baseline, rejects welfare reform and single-issue campaigns, and considers veganism as essential to any coherent theory of nonviolence.</p>
<p>If you are not already vegan then start today. It&#8217;s easy. It&#8217;s better for your health and for the planet. But most importantly, ethical veganism represents your commitment to justice, the abolition of animal  exploitation, and nonviolence.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-world-vegan-day-nov-1-2009/">Commentary #10: World Vegan Day—Nov. 1, 2009</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  Happy World Vegan Day to all of you.  In this Commentary, I reflect on the state of the vegan movement. The bad news: the large welfare corporations have done a great deal to marginalize veganism. The good news: in the past year,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

Happy World Vegan Day to all of you.

In this Commentary, I reflect on the state of the vegan movement. The bad news: the large welfare corporations have done a great deal to marginalize veganism. The good news: in the past year, we have seen the growth of the abolitionist movement, which views veganism as the moral baseline, rejects welfare reform and single-issue campaigns, and considers veganism as essential to any coherent theory of nonviolence.

If you are not already vegan then start today. It&#039;s easy. It&#039;s better for your health and for the planet. But most importantly, ethical veganism represents your commitment to justice, the abolition of animal  exploitation, and nonviolence.

Gary L. Francione
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #9: Using Sexism to Promote Animal Rights</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: Would Martin Luther King have had an &#8220;I&#8217;d Rather Go Naked than Sit in the Back of the Bus&#8221; campaign? Of course not. He would have recognized that such a campaign would trivialize the important message of civil rights. Why don&#8217;t animal advocates recognize that sexist campaigns similarly trivialize the issue of animal [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-using-sexism-to-promote-animal-rights/">Commentary #9: Using Sexism to Promote Animal Rights</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>Would Martin Luther King have had an &#8220;I&#8217;d Rather Go Naked than Sit in the Back of the Bus&#8221; campaign?</p>
<p>Of course not.</p>
<p>He would have recognized that such a campaign would trivialize the important message of civil rights.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t animal advocates recognize that sexist campaigns similarly trivialize the issue of animal rights and give people yet another reason to dismiss the animal rights issue?</p>
<p>That is the topic of our ninth Commentary.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-using-sexism-to-promote-animal-rights/">Commentary #9: Using Sexism to Promote Animal Rights</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  Would Martin Luther King have had an &quot;I&#039;d Rather Go Naked than Sit in the Back of the Bus&quot; campaign?  Of course not.  He would have recognized that such a campaign would trivialize the important message of civil rights.  </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

Would Martin Luther King have had an &quot;I&#039;d Rather Go Naked than Sit in the Back of the Bus&quot; campaign?

Of course not.

He would have recognized that such a campaign would trivialize the important message of civil rights.

Why don&#039;t animal advocates recognize that sexist campaigns similarly trivialize the issue of animal rights and give people yet another reason to dismiss the animal rights issue?

That is the topic of our ninth Commentary.

Gary L. Francione
©2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #8: A Discussion of Abolitionist Principles</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: There are some advocates who claim to be abolitionists but who support welfare reform or who support violence. In this Commentary, I explain why welfare reform and violence cannot fit into the abolitionist approach. Gary L. Francione ©2009 Gary L. Francione</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-a-discussion-of-abolitionist-principles/">Commentary #8: A Discussion of Abolitionist Principles</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>There are some advocates who claim to be abolitionists but who support welfare reform or who support violence.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I explain why welfare reform and violence cannot fit into the abolitionist approach.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-a-discussion-of-abolitionist-principles/">Commentary #8: A Discussion of Abolitionist Principles</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  There are some advocates who claim to be abolitionists but who support welfare reform or who support violence.  In this Commentary, I explain why welfare reform and violence cannot fit into the abolitionist approach.  Gary L. Francione </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

There are some advocates who claim to be abolitionists but who support welfare reform or who support violence.

In this Commentary, I explain why welfare reform and violence cannot fit into the abolitionist approach.

Gary L. Francione
©2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #7: An Up-Close and Personal Encounter with Moral Schizophrenia</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: I refer to the delusional and confused way that we think about animals as a social/moral matter as constituting &#8220;moral schizophrenia.&#8221; I had a recent encounter with moral schizophrenia in dealing with a deer who had been hit by a car and the hunters who stopped to help the deer. In this Commentary, [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-an-up-close-and-personal-encounter-with-moral-schizophrenia/">Commentary #7: An Up-Close and Personal Encounter with Moral Schizophrenia</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegetarianism-as-a-gateway-to-veganism/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #1: Vegetarianism as a “Gateway” to Veganism?'>Commentary #1: Vegetarianism as a “Gateway” to Veganism?</a></li>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>I refer to the delusional and confused way that we think about animals as a social/moral matter as constituting <a title="Read A Note on Moral Schizophrenia" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-note-on-moral-schizophrenia/" target="_self">&#8220;moral schizophrenia.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>I had a recent encounter with moral schizophrenia in dealing with a deer who had been hit by a car and the hunters who stopped to help the deer.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I describe and discuss what happened.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-an-up-close-and-personal-encounter-with-moral-schizophrenia/">Commentary #7: An Up-Close and Personal Encounter with Moral Schizophrenia</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-classic-of-moral-schizophrenia/' rel='bookmark' title='A Classic of &#8220;Moral Schizophrenia&#8221;'>A Classic of &#8220;Moral Schizophrenia&#8221;</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  I refer to the delusional and confused way that we think about animals as a social/moral matter as constituting &quot;moral schizophrenia.&quot;  I had a recent encounter with moral schizophrenia in dealing with a deer who had been hit by a car...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

I refer to the delusional and confused way that we think about animals as a social/moral matter as constituting &quot;moral schizophrenia.&quot;

I had a recent encounter with moral schizophrenia in dealing with a deer who had been hit by a car and the hunters who stopped to help the deer.

In this Commentary, I describe and discuss what happened.

Gary L. Francione
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #6: Aspects of the Vegetarian/Vegan Debate</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: Our first Commentary about vegetarianism as a &#8220;gateway&#8221; to veganism has provoked continuing controversy and in this Commentary, I address three issues: 1. Does my position that we cannot draw a moral distinction between flesh and other animal products mean that we ought to be confrontational or judgmental when we talk to people [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-aspects-of-the-vegetarianvegan-debate/">Commentary #6: Aspects of the Vegetarian/Vegan Debate</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>Our first Commentary about vegetarianism as a &#8220;gateway&#8221; to veganism has provoked continuing controversy and in this Commentary, I address three issues:</p>
<p>1. Does my position that we cannot draw a moral distinction between flesh and other animal products mean that we ought to be confrontational or judgmental when we talk to people who are not vegans?</p>
<p>The short answer: no, of course not.</p>
<p>2. What do we do when someone says that they care about the issue of animal exploitation but they just are not going to give up animal products.</p>
<p>The short answer: that is generally a reaction that is really inviting more discussion.</p>
<p>3.  Why do new welfarists so vehemently reject veganism as a moral baseline?</p>
<p>The short answer: a key principle of animal welfare theory is that it is acceptable to use and to kill animals as long as we do not make them suffer. Veganism is simply one way—among many others, including &#8220;happy&#8221; meat/animal products—to reduce suffering. Veganism has no greater significance than as a way of reducing suffering.</p>
<p>I hope that this Commentary clarifies some of the excellent questions that I have received.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-aspects-of-the-vegetarianvegan-debate/">Commentary #6: Aspects of the Vegetarian/Vegan Debate</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/commentary-world-vegan-day-nov-1-2009/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #10: World Vegan Day—Nov. 1, 2009'>Commentary #10: World Vegan Day—Nov. 1, 2009</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  Our first Commentary about vegetarianism as a &quot;gateway&quot; to veganism has provoked continuing controversy and in this Commentary, I address three issues:  1. Does my position that we cannot draw a moral distinction between flesh and oth...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

Our first Commentary about vegetarianism as a &quot;gateway&quot; to veganism has provoked continuing controversy and in this Commentary, I address three issues:

1. Does my position that we cannot draw a moral distinction between flesh and other animal products mean that we ought to be confrontational or judgmental when we talk to people who are not vegans?

The short answer: no, of course not.

2. What do we do when someone says that they care about the issue of animal exploitation but they just are not going to give up animal products.

The short answer: that is generally a reaction that is really inviting more discussion.

3.  Why do new welfarists so vehemently reject veganism as a moral baseline?

The short answer: a key principle of animal welfare theory is that it is acceptable to use and to kill animals as long as we do not make them suffer. Veganism is simply one way—among many others, including &quot;happy&quot; meat/animal products—to reduce suffering. Veganism has no greater significance than as a way of reducing suffering.

I hope that this Commentary clarifies some of the excellent questions that I have received.

Gary L. Francione
©2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #5: On Violence</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: I am opposed to violence. I regard violence as inherently immoral. I have written about and discussed that issue often, including in essays (1,2) on this site. I recognize that many of you disagree with my opposition to violence. But that is irrelevant. Even if you believe that violence can be justified, there [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-commentary-on-violence/">Commentary #5: On Violence</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>I am opposed to violence. I regard violence as inherently immoral. I have written about and discussed that issue often, including in essays (<a title="Read A Comment on Violence" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-comment-on-violence/" target="_self">1</a>,<a title="Read More on Violence and Animal Rights" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/more-on-violence-and-animal-rights/" target="_self">2</a>) on this site.</p>
<p>I recognize that many of you disagree with my opposition to violence.</p>
<p>But that is irrelevant. Even if you believe that violence can be justified, there are still compelling reasons to maintain that violence makes no sense whatsoever in the context of the struggle for animal rights.</p>
<p>I maintain that the only thing that makes any practical sense is creative, non-violent vegan education. That strategy is anything but passive; it involves our working actively and constantly to shift a fundamental paradigm—the notion that animals are things, resources, property; that they are exclusively means to human ends.</p>
<p>Until we build a critical mass of people who reject that paradigm, nothing will change.</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I discuss the matter of violence.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
©2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-commentary-on-violence/">Commentary #5: On Violence</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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<li><a href='http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegetarianism-as-a-gateway-to-veganism/' rel='bookmark' title='Commentary #1: Vegetarianism as a “Gateway” to Veganism?'>Commentary #1: Vegetarianism as a “Gateway” to Veganism?</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  I am opposed to violence. I regard violence as inherently immoral. I have written about and discussed that issue often, including in essays (1,2) on this site.  I recognize that many of you disagree with my opposition to violence.  </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

I am opposed to violence. I regard violence as inherently immoral. I have written about and discussed that issue often, including in essays (1,2) on this site.

I recognize that many of you disagree with my opposition to violence.

But that is irrelevant. Even if you believe that violence can be justified, there are still compelling reasons to maintain that violence makes no sense whatsoever in the context of the struggle for animal rights.

I maintain that the only thing that makes any practical sense is creative, non-violent vegan education. That strategy is anything but passive; it involves our working actively and constantly to shift a fundamental paradigm—the notion that animals are things, resources, property; that they are exclusively means to human ends.

Until we build a critical mass of people who reject that paradigm, nothing will change.

In this Commentary, I discuss the matter of violence.

Gary L. Francione
©2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #4: Follow-Up to “Pets” Commentary: Non-Vegan Cats</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: A number of people have written to me in response to the Commentary on &#8220;pets&#8221; to ask about the issue of non-vegan cats. It is my understanding that many cats can live healthy lives on a vegan diet but what if there are cats who absolutely need to consume animal products? In this [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/follow-up-to-pets-commentary-non-vegan-cats/">Commentary #4: Follow-Up to “Pets” Commentary: Non-Vegan Cats</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>A number of people have written to me in response to the Commentary on &#8220;pets&#8221; to ask about the issue of non-vegan cats.</p>
<p>It is my understanding that many cats can live healthy lives on a vegan diet but what if there are cats who absolutely need to consume animal products?</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I offer some ideas that I hope will stimulate your thinking about this issue.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2009 Gary L. Francione </p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/follow-up-to-pets-commentary-non-vegan-cats/">Commentary #4: Follow-Up to “Pets” Commentary: Non-Vegan Cats</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  A number of people have written to me in response to the Commentary on &quot;pets&quot; to ask about the issue of non-vegan cats.  It is my understanding that many cats can live healthy lives on a vegan diet but what if there are cats who absol...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

A number of people have written to me in response to the Commentary on &quot;pets&quot; to ask about the issue of non-vegan cats.

It is my understanding that many cats can live healthy lives on a vegan diet but what if there are cats who absolutely need to consume animal products?

In this Commentary, I offer some ideas that I hope will stimulate your thinking about this issue.

Gary L. Francione
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #3: On Michael Vick</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: As you know, I have since 2007 been wondering about why anyone thinks that Michael Vick is any worse than anyone else who consumes or uses animal products. (See 1, 2, 3) In any event, Vick was released from prison in May, 2009, and on July 27, 2009, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell conditionally [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-commentary-on-michael-vick/">Commentary #3: On Michael Vick</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>As you know, I have since 2007 been wondering about why anyone thinks that Michael Vick is any worse than anyone else who consumes or uses animal products. (See <a title="Read Francione: We're all Michael Vick" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p2274/1.pdf" target="_self">1</a>, <a title="Read A Note About Michael Vick" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-note-about-michael-vick/" target="_self">2</a>, <a title="Read Some Further Thoughts on Michael Vick" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/some-further-thoughts-on-michael-vick/" target="_self">3</a>)</p>
<p>In any event, Vick was released from prison in May, 2009, and on July 27, 2009, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell conditionally reinstated Vick. The Philadelphia Eagles have given Vick a one-year deal with an option for a second year.</p>
<p>Judging from media reports and blog essays, many animal advocates are outraged and some advocates are calling for a boycott of the NFL</p>
<p>In this Commentary, I explain why I think the Michael Vick matter is not really about Michael Vick or dog fighting. It is about fundamental moral principles that we claim as a society to accept.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-commentary-on-michael-vick/">Commentary #3: On Michael Vick</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  As you know, I have since 2007 been wondering about why anyone thinks that Michael Vick is any worse than anyone else who consumes or uses animal products. (See 1, 2, 3)  In any event, Vick was released from prison in May, 2009,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

As you know, I have since 2007 been wondering about why anyone thinks that Michael Vick is any worse than anyone else who consumes or uses animal products. (See 1, 2, 3)

In any event, Vick was released from prison in May, 2009, and on July 27, 2009, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell conditionally reinstated Vick. The Philadelphia Eagles have given Vick a one-year deal with an option for a second year.

Judging from media reports and blog essays, many animal advocates are outraged and some advocates are calling for a boycott of the NFL

In this Commentary, I explain why I think the Michael Vick matter is not really about Michael Vick or dog fighting. It is about fundamental moral principles that we claim as a society to accept.

Gary L. Francione
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #2: “Pets”</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: The issue of &#8220;pets&#8221; is a hot button issue with many advocates. Here is something I wrote in the Appendix to my book Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog?: Question 3: Does the institution of pet ownership violate animals’ basic right not to be regarded as things? Answer: Yes. Pets [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/pets/">Commentary #2: “Pets”</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>The issue of &#8220;pets&#8221; is a <a title="Read A Debate on &quot;Pet&quot; Ownership" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-debate-on-pet-ownership/" target="_self">hot button issue</a> with many advocates.</p>
<p>Here is something I wrote in the Appendix to my book <em><a title="Read about Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog?" href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/introduction-to-animal-rights-your-child-or-the-dog/" target="_self">Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog?</a>:</em></p>
<p>Question 3: Does the institution of pet ownership violate animals’ basic right not to be regarded as things?</p>
<p>Answer: Yes. Pets are our property. Dogs, cats, hamsters, rabbits, and other animals are mass produced like bolts in a factory or, in the case of birds and exotic animals, are captured in the wild and transported long distances, during which journey many of them die. Pets are marketed in exactly the same way as other commodities. Although some of us may treat our companion animals well, more of us treat them poorly. In America, most dogs spend less than two years in a home before they are dumped at a pound or otherwise transferred to a new owner; more than 70 percent of people who adopt animals give them away, take them to shelters, or abandon them. We are all aware of horror stories about neighborhood dogs on short chains who spend most of their lives alone. Our cities are full of stray cats and dogs who live miserable lives and starve or freeze, succumb to disease, or are tormented by humans. Some people who claim to love their companion animals mutilate them senselessly by having their ears cropped, their tails docked, or their claws ripped out so that they will not scratch the furniture.</p>
<p>You may treat your animal companion as a member of your family and effectively accord her or him inherent value or the basic right not to be treated as your resource. But your treatment of your animal really means that you regard your animal property as having higher than market value; should you change your mind and administer daily and severe beatings to your dog for disciplinary purposes, or not feed your cat so that she will be more motivated to catch the mice in the basement of your store, or kill your animal because you no longer want the financial expense, your decision will be protected by the law. You are free to value your property as you see fit. You may decide to polish your car often or you may let the finish erode. The choice is yours. As long as you provide the minimal maintenance for your car so that it can pass inspection, any other decision you make with respect to the vehicle, including your decision to give it to a scrap dealer, is your business. As long as you provide minimal food, water, and shelter to your pet, any other decision you make, apart from torturing the animal for no purpose whatsoever, is your business, including your decision to dump your pet at the local shelter (where many animals are either killed or sold into research, or have your pet killed by a willing veterinarian.</p>
<p>Many years ago, I adopted a hamster from a law school classmate. The hamster became ill one night, and I called an emergency veterinary service. The veterinarian said that the minimum amount for an emergency visit was $50 and asked me why I would want to spend that amount when I could get a “new” hamster from any pet shop for about $3. I took the hamster to the veterinarian anyway, but that event was one of the first times my consciousness was raised about the status of animals as economic commodities.</p>
<p>As someone who lives with seven rescued canine companions whom I love dearly, I do not treat this matter lightly. Although I regard my companions as family members, they are still my property and I could decide tomorrow to have them all killed. As much as I enjoy living with dogs, were there only two dogs remaining in the world, I would not be in favor of breeding them so that we could have more “pets” and thus perpetuate their property status. Indeed, anyone who truly cares about dogs should visit a “puppy mill”–a place where dogs are bred in the hundreds or thousands and are treated as nothing more than commodities. Female dogs are bred repeatedly until they are “spent” and are either killed or sold into research. We should, of course, care for all those domestic animals that are presently alive, but we should not continue to bring more animals into existence so that we may own them as pets.</p>
<p>In this second Abolitionist Approach Commentary, we will explore the issue of &#8220;pets.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/pets/">Commentary #2: “Pets”</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  The issue of &quot;pets&quot; is a hot button issue with many advocates.  Here is something I wrote in the Appendix to my book Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog?:  Question 3: Does the institution of pet ownership violate ani...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

The issue of &quot;pets&quot; is a hot button issue with many advocates.

Here is something I wrote in the Appendix to my book Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog?:

Question 3: Does the institution of pet ownership violate animals’ basic right not to be regarded as things?

Answer: Yes. Pets are our property. Dogs, cats, hamsters, rabbits, and other animals are mass produced like bolts in a factory or, in the case of birds and exotic animals, are captured in the wild and transported long distances, during which journey many of them die. Pets are marketed in exactly the same way as other commodities. Although some of us may treat our companion animals well, more of us treat them poorly. In America, most dogs spend less than two years in a home before they are dumped at a pound or otherwise transferred to a new owner; more than 70 percent of people who adopt animals give them away, take them to shelters, or abandon them. We are all aware of horror stories about neighborhood dogs on short chains who spend most of their lives alone. Our cities are full of stray cats and dogs who live miserable lives and starve or freeze, succumb to disease, or are tormented by humans. Some people who claim to love their companion animals mutilate them senselessly by having their ears cropped, their tails docked, or their claws ripped out so that they will not scratch the furniture.

You may treat your animal companion as a member of your family and effectively accord her or him inherent value or the basic right not to be treated as your resource. But your treatment of your animal really means that you regard your animal property as having higher than market value; should you change your mind and administer daily and severe beatings to your dog for disciplinary purposes, or not feed your cat so that she will be more motivated to catch the mice in the basement of your store, or kill your animal because you no longer want the financial expense, your decision will be protected by the law. You are free to value your property as you see fit. You may decide to polish your car often or you may let the finish erode. The choice is yours. As long as you provide the minimal maintenance for your car so that it can pass inspection, any other decision you make with respect to the vehicle, including your decision to give it to a scrap dealer, is your business. As long as you provide minimal food, water, and shelter to your pet, any other decision you make, apart from torturing the animal for no purpose whatsoever, is your business, including your decision to dump your pet at the local shelter (where many animals are either killed or sold into research, or have your pet killed by a willing veterinarian.

Many years ago, I adopted a hamster from a law school classmate. The hamster became ill one night, and I called an emergency veterinary service. The veterinarian said that the minimum amount for an emergency visit was $50 and asked me why I would want to spend that amount when I could get a “new” hamster from any pet shop for about $3. I took the hamster to the veterinarian anyway, but that event was one of the first times my consciousness was raised about the status of animals as economic commodities.

As someone who lives with seven rescued canine companions whom I love dearly, I do not treat this matter lightly. Although I regard my companions as family members, they are still my property and I could decide tomorrow to have them all killed. As much as I enjoy living with dogs, were there only two dogs remaining in the world, I would not be in favor of breeding them so that we could have more “pets” and thus perpetuate their property status. Indeed, anyone who truly cares about dogs should visit a “puppy mill”–a place where dogs are bred in the hundreds or thousands and are treated as nothing more than commodities. Female dogs are bred repeatedly until they are “spent” and are either killed or sold into research. We should, of course,</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Commentary #1: Vegetarianism as a “Gateway” to Veganism?</title>
		<link>http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegetarianism-as-a-gateway-to-veganism/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues: Welcome to the Abolitionist Approach Commentary. The Commentary will consist of a series of podcasts that discuss and explore various aspects of the idea that we ought to abolish, and not merely regulate, animal exploitation. The Commentary will reflect ideas contained in this website and in my books. Animals are nonhuman persons and [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegetarianism-as-a-gateway-to-veganism/">Commentary #1: Vegetarianism as a “Gateway” to Veganism?</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com">Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach</a>.</p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Colleagues:</p>
<p>Welcome to the Abolitionist Approach Commentary.</p>
<p>The Commentary will consist of a series of podcasts that discuss and explore various aspects of the idea that we ought to abolish, and not merely regulate, animal exploitation. The Commentary will reflect ideas contained in this website and in my books.</p>
<p>Animals are nonhuman persons and we cannot morally justify treating them as human resources. In addition, because animals are chattel property or economic commodities, regulation of animal treatment costs money and animal welfare regulations will almost never provide significant protection for animal interests. As a general matter, welfare regulations actually make animal use more profitable because the regulations implemented are those that result in an economic benefit for producers and consumers. The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will discuss why animal welfare reform does not and cannot work to provide protection for nonhuman animals.</p>
<p>The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will promote ethical veganism and creative, non-violent vegan education as the primary forms of activism to move toward the abolition of animal use. Ethical veganism goes beyond not just eating animal products; it rejects the use of animals for clothing or the use of products that contain animal ingredients or that have been tested on animals. There is no moral distinction between flesh and other animal products. All animal products involve animal suffering and death.</p>
<p>The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will explore the notion of “animal rights.” Although there is a great deal of controversy about what rights humans should have, we all oppose human slavery, or treating humans as chattel property. The Abolitionist Approach maintains that we cannot morally justify denying this one right to all sentient nonhumans. This means that we should stop bringing domesticated animals into existence. We should care for those who are here now but we should not bring any more into existence. We should leave non-domesticated animals alone and stop encroaching on and destroying their habitats.</p>
<p>The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will seek to explore our “moral schizophrenia” or the delusional and confused way in which we approach animal ethics. We all agree that it is wrong to inflict “unnecessary” suffering and death on nonhuman animals. If “necessity” is to have any coherent meaning, it must mean at least that it is wrong to inflict suffering and death on nonhuman animals for reasons of pleasure, amusement, or convenience. But the overwhelming portion of animal use can be justified only by pleasure, amusement, or convenience. Many of us live with nonhumans animals who we regard as members of our families. But we stick forks into other animals who are no different factually or morally from the nonhumans we love.</p>
<p>The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will also discuss the issue of violence and will explain why the movement to abolish animal exploitation should be part of a larger movement for Ahimsa, or non-violence. All humans exploit animals in some way or another. Therefore, violence directed at institutional users makes no sense. The institutional users of animals and producers of animal products are not the problem; the problem is the public, which demands animal products. If animal exploitation is ever to be ended, we must educate people in a non-violent way and shift the moral paradigm away from treating animals as property.</p>
<p>Finally, the Abolitionist Approach Commentary will address the important relationship between animal rights and human rights, and will  explore why we should not use sexism, racism, and other forms of discrimination to promote animal rights.</p>
<p>In this first Commentary, I discuss whether we should promote vegetarianism as a &#8220;gateway&#8221; to veganism. I conclude that the answer is &#8220;no.&#8221;</p>
<p>The bottom line: if you are a vegetarian, you are still complicit in animal suffering; you are still complicit in animal killing.</p>
<p>If you regard animals as nonhuman moral persons, why would you be complicit in animal suffering and death?</p>
<p>I hope that you find this Commentary and our future efforts useful for your thinking about animal ethics.</p>
<p>Gary L. Francione<br />
© 2009 Gary L. Francione</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dear Colleagues:  Welcome to the Abolitionist Approach Commentary.  The Commentary will consist of a series of podcasts that discuss and explore various aspects of the idea that we ought to abolish, and not merely regulate, animal exploitation.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dear Colleagues:

Welcome to the Abolitionist Approach Commentary.

The Commentary will consist of a series of podcasts that discuss and explore various aspects of the idea that we ought to abolish, and not merely regulate, animal exploitation. The Commentary will reflect ideas contained in this website and in my books.

Animals are nonhuman persons and we cannot morally justify treating them as human resources. In addition, because animals are chattel property or economic commodities, regulation of animal treatment costs money and animal welfare regulations will almost never provide significant protection for animal interests. As a general matter, welfare regulations actually make animal use more profitable because the regulations implemented are those that result in an economic benefit for producers and consumers. The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will discuss why animal welfare reform does not and cannot work to provide protection for nonhuman animals.

The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will promote ethical veganism and creative, non-violent vegan education as the primary forms of activism to move toward the abolition of animal use. Ethical veganism goes beyond not just eating animal products; it rejects the use of animals for clothing or the use of products that contain animal ingredients or that have been tested on animals. There is no moral distinction between flesh and other animal products. All animal products involve animal suffering and death.

The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will explore the notion of “animal rights.” Although there is a great deal of controversy about what rights humans should have, we all oppose human slavery, or treating humans as chattel property. The Abolitionist Approach maintains that we cannot morally justify denying this one right to all sentient nonhumans. This means that we should stop bringing domesticated animals into existence. We should care for those who are here now but we should not bring any more into existence. We should leave non-domesticated animals alone and stop encroaching on and destroying their habitats.

The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will seek to explore our “moral schizophrenia” or the delusional and confused way in which we approach animal ethics. We all agree that it is wrong to inflict “unnecessary” suffering and death on nonhuman animals. If “necessity” is to have any coherent meaning, it must mean at least that it is wrong to inflict suffering and death on nonhuman animals for reasons of pleasure, amusement, or convenience. But the overwhelming portion of animal use can be justified only by pleasure, amusement, or convenience. Many of us live with nonhumans animals who we regard as members of our families. But we stick forks into other animals who are no different factually or morally from the nonhumans we love.

The Abolitionist Approach Commentary will also discuss the issue of violence and will explain why the movement to abolish animal exploitation should be part of a larger movement for Ahimsa, or non-violence. All humans exploit animals in some way or another. Therefore, violence directed at institutional users makes no sense. The institutional users of animals and producers of animal products are not the problem; the problem is the public, which demands animal products. If animal exploitation is ever to be ended, we must educate people in a non-violent way and shift the moral paradigm away from treating animals as property.

Finally, the Abolitionist Approach Commentary will address the important relationship between animal rights and human rights, and will  explore why we should not use sexism, racism, and other forms of discrimination to promote animal rights.

In this first Commentary, I discuss whether we should promote vegetarianism as a &quot;gateway&quot; to veganism. I conclude that the answer is &quot;no.&quot;

The bottom line: if you are a vegetarian, you are still complicit in animal suffering; you are still complicit in animal killing.

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